24 responses to “Imprisoned by a parent’s mind: A child’s eye view of alienation”
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As am adult alienated child I can attest to the accuracy of your words, that alienation disconnecrs the child from her Self. Due to decades of unresolved alienation, it has taken me well into adulthood to reclaim my own self and soul. Thank you for your work.
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The loss of trust and the alienation from ones own self is a horrifying thing for a child to face mothererased, I know it well and suffered it too. Sending my love and support K
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“How we help children to put down the burdens they carry is about how we understand the stories of their lives, those stories which govern their beliefs about themselves and the world around them and the stories which prevent them from having the healthy, loving, supportive relationships which give them HOPE for the future”
For me, apart from getting to the “root” of the problem, this is also an indicator of the route to future hope for the traumatised/targeted parent who could one day play the crucial role of helping that child (or adult child) heal
Thanks for another both inciteful and uplifting piece
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I cannot stress enough EHFR that the rejected parent plays the most crucial role in the recovery of normality and hope for a healthy future, I see it again and again, the healthy parent who has been through hell stepping up and holding the children steady as they recover. Doesn’t matter how long it takes for the child to escape, if their healthy parent is there fore them they will recover. Hope lies in the hands of the healthy parent, we must never forget that. K
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Good Morning Karen, thank you for your lovely memories of lemon trees and your grandmother. I think this is the paragraph we all need to keep reading “Those precious minds of the next generation deserve to be protected and preserved as fresh and new as the lemons hanging from the trees on the terraces below me. This is the focus of our work now and in the future.”
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Morning Jane, grandmothers live in our hearts and minds for all of our lives, as do grandfathers, much overlooked in terms of their importance in the psychological landscape of children’s lives but so very important. I miss my grandmother, she lived til she was 99 and on the day she died she told me she was going on a journey but I couldn’t come on this one with her as I had to stay behind for my own grandchildren (who weren’t born then). When my grandson was born one of the biggest surprises and delights of my life was that my grandmother was still alive in my own grandmothering, so much more so than when I was a mother for the first time because I had been so badly alienated from my own mother that I didn’t have an internalised template and had to make it up as I went along. But my grandmother template was alive and well and she has been with me each step of the way with my grandson so that I know how to be a grandmother as if I were born to it and as a result I have been able to relax and enjoy it unconsciously, knowing that what she gave me was incredibly healthy. All of which teaches me the importance of positive templates for children who learn how to be parents and grandparents from the care they receive, which is why it is so important to make sure that the care they do get is healthy.
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“I work with alienated children, I know them and I understand them. From the children who tell me they hate me as much as the parent they are rejecting, to the ones who hug me and thank me in the months after the necessary changes have been made to their lives, I know them well. I can predict their behaviours and reactions and because of that I can create a road for them to travel on, even when they are adamant they do not want to follow me. What I know about alienated children is that their minds are precious, they belong only to them and their right to grow to adulthood without having their mind be the battle ground for adult issues is paramount. It is the only thing that really matters in the end. How we help children to put down the burdens they carry is about how we understand the stories of their lives, those stories which govern their beliefs about themselves and the world around them and the stories which prevent them from having the healthy, loving, supportive relationships which give them hope for the future. Being big enough and brave enough to challenge the adults who are harming their children is about being concerned with children’s needs first. It’s not about rights, it’s not about justice, it is about mental and psychological health and promoting that in the lives of children over everything and anything else.”LikeLike
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Thank you so much for the work you do. My mind and heart are captured by the way you express PA. I have become to love you and I don’t know you.
“I am once again shown that the impressionable mind of a child is akin to a blank canvas. If the adults in the child’s world want to paint beautiful pictures of hope and humanity upon that canvas they can but if they want to paint pictures of fear and devastation they can do that too. In every respect a child is a prisoner of the minds of one or both parents and especially so after separation.”
This analogy is perfect. After a horrifying picture of fear, hate devastation has been painted and the canvas is very dark for 12 years. it is extremely difficult to un-paint the canvas and give it correct coloring and true beauty. It only takes a master in the arts to fix. As the canvas is beautified the child is released and with that the target parent is released too from all the pain and suffering.
I would also have to add to this that the targeted parent is also stuck in the horrifying pain watching the children suffer in that way. They too will need full recovery and that only happens until the child has recovered. Rejection of our children and not having them in our lives takes a huge toll on a targeted parent. The suffering in incredibly difficult to cope with; it is a daily “thing” to struggle and wrestle with. No one can relate. You wake up thinking of your children and you go to sleep thinking of your children no matter what age they are. The pain never goes away.You give me hope to go on. the fight is still on, because now it has become generational and we have to be proactive and steadfast and help with change for the sake of the children and grandchildren.
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I am glad it helps, to be witness to the painting of devastation in a child’s mind is a terrible thing and I send you my support, when I write that healthy parents are valuable assets in the battle against alienation I really mean it, you are your child’s best hope for a normal and healthy future and you must stay strong and resilient so that you can be there when they escape. Recently a mother wrote to me about her son who had rejected her for many years after she had left his father because of his violence. Her son is now safely with her after reaching an age when he was able to escape, from ‘hating’ her to finding her and confessing his need for safety after five years of alienation. The most difficult part is that his father has now rejected him completely and he is struggling to understand that. Children are hard wired to love both parents, to be made to reject them they have to be terrorised, made to feel afraid of losing the parent they are most dependent upon and persuaded that the other parent is damaging or dangerous to their wellbeing. Never give up hope, never stop knowing you are the healthy parent, never let a day go by without reminding yourself that you are your child’s best hope for a normal future. I am going to write a bit more about communicating with children who are alienated as I have been doing some interviews with children post reunification and it is very clear that despite the alienation, the love for the rejected parent never ever dies. I hope this will bring more hope to you and others and help you to survive what I know is a terrible suffering. Sending my support. K
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How.true this is Karen, I have to try to fill my days and nights and keep my daughter “healthy” in a world where she has all but lost her big brother! Her daddy told him he could see me (his mother) but if he did that would be him and his father finished and he would never have anything more to do with him…. how is a child supposed to pick one parent over the other?? I guess the no boundaries won my son over but at what cost! He comes with his daddy once quite month to have contact with his sister, cigarette in his 16year old hand hand, sorry but wouldn’t be happening on my watch!,! My mother and I had issues when I was young but at nearly 90 she is now my rock!! Thank you for the dedication, hard work and obvious love you put into your calling!
Frankie
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Very profound article, thank you.
Something about this I want to clarify:
” . . . the issue of how to ensure that the healthy parent, (in pure alienation cases the one who is rejected), can have the kind of input into the child’s life which is protective . . .”
Some seem to believe that if the target parent can maintain 50/50 custody in practice, the child will see that parent for who they are, and not be so easily induced into the allied parent’s delusion that this parent is somehow inferior and abusive. Bitter experience taught me that this is an illusion. When everything that you do or say is reported to the other parent and then masterfully spun and distorted, and the child’s other parent is a constant background presence during your custody due to smartphones, no amount of “input” into the child’s life will protect them because your input is benign while the character-disordered parent’s input is malign. In pure cases at least, input without protective separation is futile. But protective separation here in Sacramento seems just about impossible.
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David, I want to reply to this because it goes to the very heart of what I have come to know is the absolute truth about alienation in its purest and most severe form – no amount of shared parenting legislation will make a single jot of difference because the issue is not the rights of the parents or the manner in which the child spends time with each, it is not about legal jurisdiction or justice or fairness it is about the unwell parent who is willing to use the child’s mind to win out in battle of their making which has its roots in the unresolved trauma which they are playing out from a position of decompensation. In this respect Dr Childress is absolutely and utterly correct and I have no problem at all with arguing loudly for the protective separation we know is what liberates children from this horrible situation. I cannot call these people pathogens as Dr Childress does because that dehumanises them, whatever their problem they are humans and we have to deal with them, we have to also find ways of helping children to deal with them because unless we do, we abandon children to the fate of having to cut out one parent in order to keep the other, either they cut out the healthy parent at the behest of the unhealthy one or we change residence and they cut out the unhealthy one completely – which serves no purpose other than to leave the child in limbo in relationship to that parent. What we have to do is help the child to understand that the unhealthy parent sees the world in different terms and that those different terms are problematic for them, we have to protect the child first and then build healthy awareness and resilience to the unhealthy parent’s machinations so that the child does not continue black and white thinking but recognises that their parent is unhealthy and therefore must be managed. I am doing this work in the UK right now, it is where my interest really lies I think and it is the place where I hope that we will find all work with such families is placed as time goes on. This is a relational problem which is rife in the world and one which we must bring to consciousness in order to help the children of tomorrow to avoid. You are absolutely right to say that no amount of input into the child’s life will help in pure and severe cases without separation from the disordered parent, it is what we argue for and support in such cases and it relieves the child immediately of the burden they carry.
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As someone with three teenage children, this something I have been trying to explain to new FNF’ers with a young child or children – all hopeful of ‘winning’ in Court.
My feeling is rather that we need to start at the earliest possible practical point of intervention…that is…before any of the children in a relationship are actually born.
If a new social norm could be developed – that as soon as children were on the horizon, it would be the norm for couple-type counseling to be offered (and socially unacceptable to refuse to take seriously) then might we have a chance of ‘nipping Parental Alienation in the bud’?
Surely this could be achieved on the basis that future separation can prove exceptionally harmful for the child if not managed exceptionally carefully – with the figures showing that the numbers of separations to be statistically high – however confident individuals may be at the start?
Skilled counseling can easily pick up the early signs of healthy and unhealthy parenting – with unhealthy personalities wishing to avoid this, whereas Court procedures, by contrast – can often attract them.
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David I agree with you. I have the similar experience and I live in Maryland. My experience was very similar in that the alienating had complete control of the children and was coaching them every second when they were with me. He was a constant presence where ever they were. Smartphones and computers surely make it very easy for the alienating parent, and since the alienating parent is a computer engineer, he set up my computer to access it through VPN and had access to my notes and emails. The alienating parent coached them to do the most heinous things like call the police and report false abuse against me when they were with me several times. As you say, the alienating parent masterfully spun and distorted things I have said and done to GALs, court counselor, judge, therapists, etc. There is no way in hell of a positive outcome unless of a protective separation. In the united states, I am not sure they know what that is. My relationship with my children disintegrated within two weeks. It became very toxic and futile situation and out of control.
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Dear Karen , keep up with your Beautiful Spirit.Love to hear more from you .xx – Adrian from a grandadsjourney.co.uk
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Thank you Adrian, I will be writing more in the Autumn about children’s experiences K
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Hi, I love reading all of your stuff and it is helping me through my own griefJust wondering what can be done to make Alienation Counselling /treatment more accessible to people like me but without a lot of spare cash ?Any advice greatly appreciatedMaurice07580585006
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 08:13:41 +0000 To: mauricevidowsky@hotmail.com
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Another excellent post by Karen – alienation is child abuse and a child protection issue!LikeLike
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Karen….throughout your post you make reference to a parent’s “unresolved issues” being the real cause behind PA developing……..what kind of things fall under these unspecified “unresolved issues”? I’m so full of self doubt about myself that i keep asking myself if there was really any truth in the allegations of PA made against me……did I do something inadvertently?….. because I know I did nothing consciously or intentionally? But then my history is to heap blame on myself/accept being blamed by others even when there is no truth in it. Maybe I’m doing this again……all i know is that I’m lost in all this I really am.
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What is your situation, Sadsam – are you a targeted father who has been accused of alienating the children from you, yourself?
If so, this will be a standard tactic of an alienating parent and those supporting them.
And in response to your previous point – my experience is that the child’s mind is captured by the alienating parent to such an extent that they may still be seeing – but are no longer registering peer influence in the way that would be expected – so under the spell of the alienating parent, they are.
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